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Update on Amish: Out of Order

Due to Higher then anticipated ratings of the series Amish: Out of Order, The National Geographic Channel has moved the rest of the series ahead 1 Hour so more people can see it. The rest of the series will now air at 9:00 Eastern time, and 8:00 Central time.

47 thoughts on “Update on Amish: Out of Order”

    1. I am so glad to hear that the ratings have been higher than anticpated. I look forward to this show every single week.I was hoping for an inside look into the Amish but have been given more than that. My prayers follow Mose and the other young ex-Amish each episode.

  1. I am soooo happy that the ratings are so good that they changed the time. This is the very thing I have been praying for–that the Amish people would finally realize that they need a true personal relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ! I am realizing more and more why the Lord made my husband and I move near Lancaster, PA–to help minister the Word of God to the Amish and ex-Amish community. This episode was AWESOME!!!! Mose, you are right on track, my brother!! Keep up the good work!!! May God bless you and guide you on your journey….

    1. Jeanette,

      I’m not trying to speak for Mose, but I don’t think you’re getting the point of the show. I don’t get the sense that any of this is about converting Ex-Amish towards a specific branch of religion, but is instead about providing them with options and support.

      Again, just my observations.

      1. My thoughts also. I think many of them have a “true personal relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ”. There are just some problems in some areas, just like there are everywhere, in all faiths. Here in the south, there are many of the very same problems in the evangelical sects. There way is the “only way”. I think with support and options, the ex Amish can find their way to church on their own. I think if a certain group provides extreme support ~just with a goal to convert to “their only true way to Jesus Christ”, this is taking advantage of an extremely vulnerable person in need. Just minister to them in good faith, and if your way is right for them, they will be there without much persuasion at all.

        Just my observations

      2. Exactly Mike. That’s why he was being doubtful in the last episode about the Penicostals who were offering help…if they converted. I think much of his journey is about being right with himself and his past. Coming to terms with that before feeling right with God. And personally, I think God cares more about the person you are than what religion you belong to.

  2. Hallelujah! What a blessing your show is! May the light and love of Jesus shine through you brightly! But, don’t forget to wear the full armor of God, because the arrows that are flung at you won’t be from the Amish… Read Ephesians 6:10-18, and blessings to you and yours!

  3. This show is so amazing — for all that Mose (and others) are doing for the ex-Amish, to see that the ex-Amish are being ministered to after a lot of religious abuse that have harmed their relationship with God (this goes on in other religious sects of all sorts – but the ex-Amish man featured in the show seems to really be sincere and beyond that).

    I love seeing how God is reaching out to you, Mose, and to the others through this experience too – in a gentle, non-demanding & non-condemning way too.

    Mose, I hope there is a way to keep up with the ministry you have if that’s ok. I imagine that your life might be somewhat bombarded with lots of strangers after the run of this show, and understand if you need time off to be with family, to deal with responsibilities/ministry, etc – of course.

    God bless you and your family and the work you are doing with/for the ex-Amish!

  4. This weeks show was so amazing.I agree with you that the approach in Indiana is scary. Helping them leave one strict religion to join another is not allowing them much time to seek their own choice where God would lead them. It was like a trip home in your car touring Lancaster PA again. Only being away for 15 months it was nice to see our hometown again and familiar sights. It is a beautiful countryside and area. Mose you are an amazing man and hearing the show is doing so well is truly a blessling. When most of the time the media thinks we only want to see more politically correct type shows, having a show that isn’t afraid to talk about our lives and how we need Jesus thrive is a true testament that people are needing this story in their lives and are seeking! God Bless You. Thank you for your strength and for your hard work.

  5. Last night’s episode was beautiful, Mr. Gingerich. Thank you for agreeing to do this series and for being so open about your own life and experiences, throughout it. You are doing important work in Missouri.

  6. I have really enjoyed this series as well. It is interesting to see how religion affects people, no matter what the religion. I have been negatively affected by religion as well, though not to the degree you have. Still, interesting to follow how damaging it can be to people of all walks of life.

  7. Note on May 29 show.
    Re Pentecostal minister and his mission: I am glad that ~someone~ is trying to help the ex-Amish. But one needs to be careful. His intentions are probably good, but he has his own agenda.

    Re Curtis: He needs to be careful about making judgments about folks without all of the facts. Having a few beers doesn’t define what is in a person’s heart. Young men brag. He doesn’t have enough information.

    Re Pentecostal Churches: Having been around many in Dekalb, Alabama, they have their own set of problems. Snake handling and, home births that endanger the mother and child, are a couple. I did like that they read and studied the Bible and sought out their own answers. They make me uncomfortable though.

    Re Jonas: What a sad situation that his own family didn’t help him in a dire time of need. They should be careful. They may be the ones “going to Hell” for turning their back on their own child.

    Re Lapp Scene: This was overwhelming. Such abuse from a father and an acquaintance. I hope writing/burning/release exercise helped, but I have a feeling more is needed.

    Re Counseling: As a general rule, I don’t like Christian counseling, because to me to tell an emotionally battered wife to “to the other cheek”, to save the marriage no matter what, is not always a good idea. But, the idea of forgiving is appealing, as long as one is aware that at some point you have to just look at a situation for what it is, and deal with it the best way possible, which may not always be with kindness,and humility.

  8. The key to the show is people getting free from bondage to human control and coming into personal freedom, not only in what they believe and think, but what they do. It is so good to see ex-Amish coming together to be the Family of God when their natural family shuns them.

  9. I appreciate those who left me comments. I agree that the ex-Amish don’t necessarily need to join (especially in the vulnerable state that they are in) a specific Christian group. I think it’s wonderful that people like Mose are willing to sacrifice their time to find out all he can about these Christian groups in order to help his fellow ex-Amish friends find somewhere to go and worship if they so desire. I know that the show isn’t just about finding God or a certain “religion”–I myself came from a very strict Catholic upbringing, and in many ways, I can relate to what Mose and the others have gone through. After many debates with the priests and other elders of my local RCC that went on for quite a few of my teenage years (and I was actually pondering about becoming a nun at one time!) between RC traditions, rituals and doctrines vs what the Bible taught, I finally decided to leave at age 20. I was heartbroken and felt abandoned, and my mother and other family members were distraught about me leaving the RCC. I should have been “excommunicated”, but my church decided to just oust me from serving in the different capacities such as a Eucharistic Minister, Lecturer, etc, since I would not give in to their threats of heresy. I also went from leaving the RCC which is a solemn type of procession, to being lead to go to one of the local Pentecostal churches in my area–wow–what a difference it was! It was a bit of a shock,but I know my friends meant well. It wasn’t my cup of tea, so after visiting a few other different Bible churches, found one that taught the Word of God clearly and helped me towards a closer walk with God. I’m glad my friends took me to that church, even though I didn’t end up staying there for too long. It was all part of my life’s journey, and I’m glad that this show is on so we all can learn from Mose and the others, and understand them better.

    1. Oh my! It sounds like you had an experience that was about as traumatic as his! I can not imagine how it hurts to feel like you are upsetting your parents, but need to do what you feel is truly right. It sounds like God did place you in Lancaster for a reason! Young people need the unconditional love of their parents, even if they do some things that the parents don’t agree with. I think with Mose just telling his story, others will receive help. Each of those kids is a valuable individual. Bless you.

  10. This the 2nd time that abuse of children in the Amish community has been discussed. For all their talk about community and caring, standing back and allowing a father to beat his child so badly that blood would pool in his shoes is so horrible, I cannot find words strong enough to express my feelings. Children are the most important commodity in a community. And it is the responsibility of each and every community member to protect the children — no matter what your religious background.

    Psalm 127:3
    Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward.

    1. Yes it is a horrible shock! I hope some don’t accuse the series of only showcasing “bad” things about the Amish. I know it exists in all communities, but the light should be shined on it for ALL to see, to help protect those who cannot protect themselves.

  11. Mose, blessings to you and your family and thank you for doing this series with National Geographic Channel. I am so enjoying this series and appreciate your dedication to your faith and helping the ex-Amish kids. They certainly need someone like you to look for help when they make the important decision in leaving the Amish. Thank you for all of the hard work you do and this series. You are so open and caring regarding your own life and experiences. You are are real inspiration to all of us. God Bless…

  12. Mose, I hope you read these comments. I love the show, too.

    I cannot agree more: the ex-Amish SHOULD NOT be influenced by OR go to ANY church because MOST churches are wrong. And how will the Amish know which are right & which are wrong unless they read & learn God’s word for themselves FIRST?

    It’s TRUE! There is ONLY 1 WAY to God, but it is NOT a religion or a denomination. It is thru the word of God & the power of the Holy Spirit, because of the blood of Christ.

    Mose {& EVERYBODY WHO READS THIS}, just read the Bible with your own family & with the ex-Amish.

    God’s word is truth ~ does it change you or offend you?

    The OT {Old Testament} & the NT {New Testament} support each other in perfect harmony, but are not equally applied today. The Bible itself is clear about this:
    The OT was God’s covenant UNTIL Jesus died.
    The NT is God’s covenant SINCE Jesus died.

    The Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke & John tell what God wants us to know & believe about Him.

    The Book of Acts tells what every single new believer did as soon as he believed the Gospel. They {Men & women – Acts 8:12} were all baptized/immersed-not-sprinkled the same day, & NO INFANTS were ever baptized. They didn’t wait until Sunday. They didn’t wait until the ice thawed (motel/hotel chains have pools, too). They didn’t wait until the annual baptism. They were baptized the same day. And the job wasn’t done until the new believer was baptized {Acts chapters 8, 10, 11, just to name a few}.

    Romans thru Jude tell how to live on earth as if you’re headed for heaven.

    Last, but not least, Revelation tells believers what signs to notice happening around them when Jesus’ return is imminent, NOT for the purpose of predicting when but for the purpose of holding fast & sharing the gospel with as many as possible.

    When you read the Bible, just read the Bible.
    – Put aside everything you already believe about it
    – Put aside everything everybody else has told you is in the Bible
    – AND DON’T MAKE UP CRAP IN YOUR WON HEAD! THAT’S HOW PRIVATE INTERPRETATIONS & DENOMINATIONS ARE CREATED. If you don’t understand something now, it’s OK. Understanding will come in time; in the RIGHT time.

    When you read the Bible, ask God:
    – for a humble teachable heart
    – for understanding as you read it
    – to lead you to His true followers &
    – to lead you to His true salvation

    Remember, just be careful to NOT make up your own ideas.

    And when you’re done, start over again, & again & again, until you die OR Jesus comes back, whichever happens 1st.

    WHY WOULD YOU NEED TO GO TO A CHURCH ANYWAY?

    Can you not meet together in homes to read the Bible, sing, pray, & take the Lord’s Supper?

    In the Bible, the collection was taken for needy saints (saved christians). PERIOD. It was NOT taken to support a church building or an organization or an institution.

    You don’t have preacher? GOOD! You don’t need 1. You’ve got God’s word. God’s word already has the words of His hand-picked, appointed preachers: His disciples. Let them be your preachers.

    There are alot of well-intentioned preachers in almost every church building, but each 1 has an agenda (as someone already pointed out). The preacher’s job is to preach what the denomination believes – even if it is wrong he’s NOT going to jeopardize his job.

    The Bible says, “work out your own salvation with fear & trembling.” It does not mean make up your own way; it means diligently seek the way God has already provided – it’s in His word.

    God promises that
    – those who diligently seek Him will find Him
    – He is a rewarder of those who do
    – those who do will not be disappointed

    Sincerely,
    bonneebee

  13. 1 LAST THING…

    I just wanted to add another thought about ‘church’

    WHY WOULD YOU NEED TO FIND A CHURCH TO GO TO ANYWAY?

    According to the Bible, the church is not a temple, it is not a denomination, & it is not an institution.
    According to the Bible, the church is the collection saved believers & God’s got the ‘church directory’ ~ it’s called “the book of life.”

    Can you not meet together in homes to read the Bible, sing, pray, & take the Lord’s Supper?
    And on a beautiful day, can you not meet at a park or forest preserve?

    1. Amen to that!! The Bible does say, “Do not forsake the assembling of yourselves”, so it is definitely a good thing to gather together to worship and pray with one another, for sure. Since we’ve moved, my husband and I hardly have attended church services—we’ve watched some regulars on TV, and listen daily to certain preachers also. But I do miss the friendship of fellow believers, and our plans are to seek them out in our area…God Bless!

  14. Just got to see the show from Tuesday, what a heartbreaking story, but so glad to see you (Mose) coming through it and receiving some much needed healing that you will be able to turn into good & healing for others in the future.

    I, personally, see the good in integrated faith with counseling – where it doesn’t convert the person to a certain faith, but it helps them work through religious abuse (along with other abuse/hurts/issues) so that they can be open to a healthy relationship with God once again.

    I have worked through 3 Christian counseling workbooks in a very healthy (and “safe”) women’s groups:
    – Making Peace With Your Past
    – Moving Beyond Your Past
    – The Mom Factor
    Three very good Christian/counseling integrated workbooks that are excellent to work through (with a skilled leader who understands what it means to be “safe” and knows how to create a “safe” environment for those in the group too.)

    I pray that whatever God has directed you towards, that He will provide for you, Mose. I love how you set out to do something, that you simply do it – with so much passion. I hope you never lose that. I pray all that you are going through with the show, the counseling, and your faith WILL make you a better husband, father and mentor to the exAmish community as you mentioned too.

    (((hugs to you, Mose!)))

  15. Hello Mose,

    My wife, daughter and I caught the show last night and were so impressed with your thoughtful, emotional journey.

    Continued Peace….

    Ralph

  16. Mose, I think the work you are doing to help the ex-Amish is totally awesome. My wife and I enjoy watching the show and learn as we relate to our own personal journeys through life. The thought of creating a counseling center is a wonderful idea and I hope that in time you can make that idea a reality. Keep up the great work that you are doing. I do agree with you that reprogramming these individuals to take on a new denomination of worship may not be such a great idea for someone that is trying to find their way in a new earthly life and culture. Just let each individual accept God at their own pace and their own terms. God Bless you and your family and the others who are helping as well.

  17. I absolutely love this show. But somethings have been concerning me. When born again people (Pentecostals or whatever other name they call themselves) are searching out ex-Amish people, this concerns me. They have a specific agenda. They want these ex-Amish youth to come to Jesus Christ. These youth have just gone through the most traumatic time in their life (leaving their faith and especially losing their families because of this decision). They are extremely vulnerable. I was part of the born again Christian movement when I was 13 and gave my life to Christ until the age of 21 or 22 when I finally came out as a gay woman. Guess what happened? I was put on church discipline, my name was said in front of all members of the church and the minister said “We cast her soul into the outer darkness so satan can destroy her flesh.” And all members of the church were told to shun me and to not to talk to me. If they were to see me, they were to witness to me and tell me to come back to Christ. People followed me everywhere just to “witness” to me. Everything will be “wonderful” in the born again movement just as like the AMISH if only you follow what everyone tells you! My experiences with the born again christian movement reminds me so much of what the ex-Amish go through. So I totally relate. I love what you do Mose, for the ex-Amish. You have no agenda for these youths, other than for them to have acceptance in their new world and a new “family” out of the Amish community. Once I was out of the church, I felt lost also. I had to find a new “family”. I think what you do is wonderful and these kids are lucky that they have you as a friend and mentor. I just am concerned for the ex-Amish youths as they are so vulnerable and the born again Christians are so quick to “help” these youths. Just please be aware. Each one of us has to find our OWN path. Not the path that others show us. Just wanted to share about my past experiences. I wish you, Mose, and all the other ex-Amish youth, peace and love on YOUR OWN JOURNEYS!

    1. A person professing to be a child of Christ said this to you????????
      “The minister said “We cast her soul into the outer darkness so satan can destroy her flesh.”

      What a sad, disappointing statement! How crushing to the heart and soul!

    2. what people do to other people in the name of God. Man’s inhumanity to man..I am so sorry for your experience. My brother became a baptist (fundamentalist)…what a judgemental, ridigid person he is now. I guess the need to control is greater then the need to love & also be it pentecostal or born againers or Amish..I feel these individuals are also very afraid.

    3. TO PHOTOBECK

      Christianity is NOT a religion, but is simply a relationship with GOD thru JESUS by the power of the HOLY SPIRIT as revealed thru God’s word, in the New Testament of the Bible.

      AND the 1 True Church, is simply the collection of saved believers/Christians & GOD’s got the name list.

      HOWEVER the PENTECOSTAL DENOMINATION is a man-made religion {I do not have time here to go into all the evidence).

      When the minister said “We cast her soul into the outer darkness so satan can destroy her flesh,” it shows his lack of understanding on how to lovingly & CORRECTLY / SCRIPTURALLY respond to your hurting heart & your need of TRUTH.

      FIRST: Most evangelical Christian *denominations believe 2 main false doctrines, 1 of which is “OSAS” or Once Saved Always Saved.
      *as opposed to the rcc/catholic & protestant sprinkling denominations

      According to the Bible, Once Saved Always Saved DOES correctly apply to those of us Christians who remain faithful, but the Bible has MANY scriptures warning about the consequences to those of us Christians who CHOOSE to NOT remain faithful.

      A. The Bible does NOT say they were never saved in the 1st place ~ the Bible clearly indicates that they were indeed saved yet turned & walked away. That is what most evangelicals believe.

      B. NOTICE WHAT THE MINISTER SAID: “We cast her soul into the outer darkness so satan can destroy her flesh”
      He said “so satan can destroy her flesh” NOT “so satan can destroy her soul.”

      They believe EITHER that you were never saved OR that you are eternally saved & when you die you will still go to heaven but you must be ex-communicated to SAVE YOUR SOUL.

      1. SLIGHT CLARIFICATION RE:
        The Bible does NOT say they were never saved in the 1st place ~ the Bible clearly indicates that they were indeed saved yet turned & walked away. That is what most evangelicals believe.

        CORRECTION:
        Most evangelicals believe that it is not possible for a truly saved Christian to walk away

        So a person who ‘walks away’ was never save to begin with

        1. AND if they ex-communicate a person who walks away,

          a. if the person was truly saved, he will still go to heaven

          b. & if the person was never saved, he will go to hell because he was never saved

    4. TO PHOTOBECK, Now on to the Biblical truth AND THE GOOD NEWS

      BOTH (#1) MAN AND (#2) GOD AGREE: homosexuality is not genetic

      #1 MAN

      A. Google Simon LeVay, the HOMOSEXUAL British-American neuroscientist & researcher who did the original study that everyone MIS-quotes as having proved homosexuality is genetic. HE DID NOT PROVE HOMOSEXUALITY IS GENETIC AND HE WAS HONEST ENOUGH TO SAY HE DID NOT PROVE HOMESEXUALITY IS GENETIC. However, agenda-driven liberals have completely lied about his results & widely spread this lie even to young school children.

      B. According to “The Search for Lost Fathering {1 of the sources I have read}, THERE ARE KNOWN CAUSES OF HOMOSEXUALITY: *EARLY SAME-GENDER MOLESTATION AND **FATHERING PLAY CRITICAL ROLES

      *Early: same-gender molestation during infancy & pre-cognisant todder stages can sexually imprint a child before he is has been imprinted thru experiencing father & mother interaction

      This explains why relatives & friends say that little Johnny has been ‘homosexual’ since childhood

      **Fathering: A domineering man-hating mother who emasculates her sons paired with a cold, uninvolved milk-toast father who fails to love his son & protect him & imprint him with masculinity

      #2 GOD

      When God critiques creation, He calls it “Good.” He calls marriage “Good” AND the Bible further indicates that marriage between 1 man & 1 woman is a picture of #1 Himself {the perfect example of a perfectly functional & harmonious relationship that consists of a sacrificial heart in all members} AND #2 of Christ’s relationship to His bride, the 1 true church / saved Christians, not a religion or denomination.

      HOWEVER, when God critiques homosexuality, He does NOT call it “Good.”
      Instead, in BOTH the OT & NT, He calls it,
      “Abomination (disgusting),
      unnatural,
      SIN,
      & “man abusing himself with mankind.”

      NOW FOR THE GOOD NEWS: JESUS DIED TO SAVE, FORGIVE AND TRANSFORM SINNERS

      The Bible is clear that
      – HOMOSEXUALITY CAN BE FORGIVEN AND CONQUERED
      AND
      – HOMOSEXUALS CAN BE TRANSFORMED BY THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT THRU THE BLOOD OF CHRIST

      1 Corinthians 6:9-11
      9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor *abusers of themselves with mankind,
      *this is the KJV Old Testament name of homosexuality
      10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
      11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

      The Bible also says
      (1) NOT ALL WHO CALL JESUS ‘LORD’ WILL ENTER HEAVEN ~ ONLY THOSE WHO OBEY
      (2) A MAN MUST BE BORN AGAIN TO ENTER HEAVEN
      (3) GOD DOES NOT HEAR THE PRAYERS OF SINNERS/UNBELIEVERS

      A man must be born again to access God’s salvation, forgiveness & transformation given to saved believers

      E.X.O.D.U.S. is a group of Christian / FORMER homosexuals who have been forgiven & transformed after being “born again” & are leading New Christians out of homosexuality

  18. My husband was born and raised in Ohio and his mother had a life long fascination with the “Dutch” as she called them. She even sold her hand-made quilts in the shops in Berlin OH and her husband made and painted wooden silhouettes and toys that he sold there too. I guess most tourists would think all of the hand made goods in all the so-called “Amish” shops in Berlin were all Amish made even though they weren’t specifically advertised that way. You yourself made that assumption in the episode where you visited Berlin OH. Anyway to make a long introduction shorter it was my husband who first watched your shows and he was watching because he remembered his mother. Then as often happens when you share a life in a small house I was drawn in too and found rather surprisingly that I was able to relate to your experiences on a very personal level.

    I don’t know whether it’s intentional or not but what seems to be happening is the creation of a myth that speaks to the human experience at large and rivals the ancient sagas where the hero discovers himself and his place in the universe by traveling through unknown lands overcoming obstacles and solving the most twisted conundrums.You might quibble at the thought of being a mythic hero, but all heroes don’t have to be Hercules. Some can be Prometheus who was wise enough to gift humans with fire. Ask your wife. I’m sure that she discovered the hero in you long before the rest of us did.

    My father’s family is of German descent.They were Catholics who immigrated to the Americas to escape the Lutheran reformation. My mother’s family were English Quakers who immigrated for similar reasons to the Pennsylvania colony one of the very few colonies where freedom of religion actually existed in the New World before the colonies became the States and the Bill of Rights was written.

    Mom and Dad had six children and we were all raised Catholic until Mom’s older sister convinced her to get “born-again”. That’s when the troubles began. To save our souls from eternal burning all of us kids were suddenly pulled from our Catechisms and tossed willy nilly to the fundamentalist fire and brimstone Pentecostals where we were told that not only were Dad and Granny burning in hell forever we were too unless Jesus saved us. I was eight and that same year I was sexually molested by Daddy John, an elder in my mother’s new church. He was forgiven because he confessed his sins and no legal charges were ever filed, but I was lost for the next 20 years and although I desperately tried to believe in the christian myths, I found it impossible to reconcile the two very different versions of Christianity I had experienced as a child. The more I studied and read as a young adult the further away I traveled until I finally was called home to my true spiritual path by the pagan gods where I learned forgiveness in a ritual very similar to the one that gave you your insight and epiphany.

    Watching these last few episodes have brought back a lot of memories and brought to the surface a lot of emotions that normally lie dormant and I must admit that for a few moments I doubted you as you researched the possibility of introducing your vulnerable community to a group of individuals who chain their assistance to their religious proselytizing. I was worried that individuals who had already been wounded would be too vulnerable to conversion and further wounding. (My youngest brother fell in with The Way in Colorado for several years and came away with “wounded”) Anyway, I guess what I want to end with is that I’m pleased you have opted to assist you community with a counseling center along with encouragement to explore their own understanding of the bible and the Christian faith and what it means or doesn’t mean to them. The search for religious freedom and the need to seek and find a spiritual path that provides both answers and solace is deep in my ancestral roots and it’s a journey I myself have taken as you have done. It’s true we have ended up in different places,but journeys of discovery often do and I believe that precisely because religion has the potential to cause so much spiritual harm that everyone should be entitled to make their own heroic journey, discover their own unique gifts and find home where they really do truly belong.

    1. I can’t believe your story. We were raised in an Italian Catholic tradition until my brother became “born again” & converted my mother & fat her. All of a sudden our tradition was wrong, they had all the answers..what a mess!!! So much like your post. Thank you for posting your experience.

      1. mam120, Jesus Himself said & said it multiple times:

        John 3:1-16
        King James Version (KJV)

        3 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:

        2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

        3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

        4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born?

        5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

        6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

        7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

        8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

        9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?

        10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

        11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.

        12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

        13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

        14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

        15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

        16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

        The ESSENTIAL, BIBLICAL “born again” experience is not part of ANY sprinkling denomination.

        And because the *JW’s have changed the words of their Bible to suit their man-made doctrine & the **LDS have actually added new doctrine by accepting 2 man-made books concocted by Joe Smith, even tho they actually baptize, the ESSENTIAL BIBLICAL “born again” experience is not a part of those religions either.
        *JW = Jehovah Witness
        **LDS = Latter Day Saints / Mormonism

  19. I was raised Catholic, and came to know the Lord at age 21…and have been serving Him ever since (33 years) ….much to the chagrin of my parents…my Dad is still convinced that I am going to hell cause I am not Catholic.

    1. I was witnessed to by a dear friend in Art School who was also raised Catholic.. I believe the clincher was when he had discovered that a lot of the things we were taught were just made up by some men long ago, like “limbo” etc. And all of the idol worship, and “Saints”. I go to a non-denom Spirit filled church, and our family is very happy there. It has a missionary training school, and a children’s ACE school on the property, and our current pastor is Australian and part of the CRC ministries from Adelaide, AU.

  20. There are alot of religions that try to control you. Make you change your judgement of things like saying that something is good or bad. Like celebrating chirstmas, birthdays that or kids in home school or inside the colony they just keeping them from meeting new people, it’s like keeping them in solitary condfindment that’s why some leave. I know your thinking I don’t know what I’m saying but it’s what you believe, don’t believe in what others make you believe.Believe in yourselves do what you think is right but dont forget somethings can clowd your judgment. Don’t let that happen.

  21. This is one of the best shows I have ever seen. Mose, I am so blessed by your courage and bravery. I am so encouraged to see that you have answered your calling when it comes to helping others like yourself. I pray for you all the time! Keep up the hard work and I will continue to watch faithfully. Blessings brother :)

  22. I have been watching reruns over the last couple of weekends. For what I have seen, I am proud of the journey that Mose has taken. I think that this time frame in America is a time for many to be waking up and come out of ‘religion’ in order to find God’s Truth for themselves. Each person in his own turn faces the questions that Mose is facing. I agree with Mose, now days, that everything that happens in our life is a part of who we are to become. It is all part of the ‘End result’. When we can look back and see the fruit that has been born out of all the pain and hardship each one of us has gone through, we will have matured at least to a certain extent. Reading God’s word for yourself without the ‘outer’ influence of religion can be truly enlightening. All of us that have grown up in ‘church’ will need to go through a time of coming out of ‘religion’ because of mans own ways corrupting the Truth. Be blessed.

  23. Hi Mose;

    I am hoping that some way the series can come back to Nat Geo.

    I was really drawn into the struggles of the ex-Amish and in particular your struggles with forgiving your father.

    I too was raised by an abusive father. His was very insidious. He would either beat one of my siblings or put us through mental and emotional abuse. It depended on which child you were and the type of abuse you were put through.

    I grew up with constant anxiety which I thought was normal. All of my sisters and I grew up to be in abusive relationships/marriages.

    The very first time I saw you on tv was in the Amish in the City show. I could tell that you have a heart for God and I was very impressed by you. I have often wondered over the years what happened to the Amish that were on the show with you. Have you heard from any of the others?

  24. I am so amazed of Bonneebee’s statement’s above.
    It truly does sadden me when christian people who “know” the bible, turn around and judge people because of what the bible says.
    I don’t know 100% what the bible says about homosexuals, drunkards, fornicators etc, but I DO know that Jesus did tell us that we should not judge others.
    God will judge us all when we die and nobody should be judging homosexuals etc in life, no matter what it says in the bible.
    I could even, (shock, horror) say that mankind does not know 100% if the bible is even correct. If we did, I would assume there would only be one denomination, but again, I do not know.
    I don’t know if homosexuality is genetic, and so what if it isn’t? The sexual choices other people make is not my concern, and doesn’t hurt me or anyone else so leave them be.
    God will advise them of their fate when he meets them and until then, everyone is entitled to a happy and loving life.

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